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Base definition

Posted by clubsodaandsalt on April 26, 2008

I am really tired of hearing about how Obama has trouble winning the “Democratic base”, i.e., working class whites (esp. in the Rust Belt). Give me a break. How are Reagan Democrats the bloody “base” of the party? You know who the base of the party is? Blacks and urban liberals, and Hispanics (other than in Florida). Democrats are *actually* dependent on those votes in state after state. How would we win PA without a huge margin in Philly? What about New York and NYC? Or Maryland and Baltimore? Or IL and Chicago, Michigan and Detroit, etc etc. Where are the big margins among these sainted “regular folk” that win us states? Please, name a county or two, Clinton campaign and/or Chris Matthews.

Seriously, please cut the crap about the “base” and the “regular people” of western PA and Ohio. Their votes and opinions are valuable, but they aren’t *more* valuable than those of the people who actually win elections for our party.

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On Haters

Posted by clubsodaandsalt on April 26, 2008

I suppose I should be used to Paul Krugman’s crochetyness about the Democratic primary by now, but this was especially silly on his part:

Despite [his focus on issues of process rather than economic issues], Obama is still the clear favorite for the nomination. But if he is the nominee, and runs this way in the general election — if it’s about the candidate’s awesomeness, not about why progressive policies make peoples’ lives better — it’s a formula for defeat.

I don’t even know what this means. Is talking about government reform somehow talking about how awesome you are? Does Krugman, of all people, not get why saying “the system is broken” is actually a relevant issue to raise right now? And I’m not even going to get into the Shapiro nonsense he quotes, except to say that implying that Iraq isn’t a big part of Obama’s insurgency is either painfully stupid or willfully ignorant.

But of course Krugman gets it. He’s just bitter about the loss of his preferred candidate. That’s fine, but seriously, this campaign is over. It’s time for people like Krug to focus the guns on McCain, rather than keeping the circular firing squad going. I’m sure he will, but when is he going to start? For all the stupid shit people talked about those of us who supported Dean in 2004, we were 100% behind Kerry as soon as the writing was on the wall. It’s time for the Clinton folks to extend the same courtesy, even though Obama is supported by *gasp!* young people.

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Shark Jumping Complete

Posted by clubsodaandsalt on April 19, 2008

Well, this is charming:

“We have been less successful in caucuses because it brings out the activist base of the Democratic Party. MoveOn didn’t even want us to go into Afghanistan. I mean, that’s what we’re dealing with. And you know they turn out in great numbers. And they are very driven by their view of our positions, and it’s primarily national security and foreign policy that drives them. I don’t agree with them. They know I don’t agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who actually show up to support me.”

Shorter version: I’d be winning if not for all these damned voters! (I suppose you could be charitable and interpret this as a complaint against the undemocratic nature of caucuses, but come on.)

I’m not sure why Hillary (and Bill) continue to drag their heretofore excellent legacy through the mud, but it’s bloody painful to watch. Hopefully she loses PA by some miracle and finally, mercifully drops out.

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Well, that was weird

Posted by clubsodaandsalt on February 26, 2008

That’s basically the best summary of the debate I can come up with. Maybe it’s just that I haven’t watched Tim Russert moderate before (thankfully). The whole thing seemed kind of surreal, with hypothetical after hypothetical. What if we have to re-invade Iraq? What if we have to re-invade Kosovo? What if Putin invades Finland? What if we need to hold Kamchatka? Does anyone really think that this is a good way of evaluating candidates? HRC was definitely channeling my feelings when she lamented all the important foreign policy questions that could have been asked, but weren’t. I do like that she is willing to call him out on being an awful moderator.

That said, I think Obama took this one. He handled himself very well in the foreign policy section; in fact, I think he did better on that front than Clinton. The point about having a nominee who can point out that they opposed the war from the beginning is important, and has resonance with those of us who were frustrated by Kerry’s failure to effectively oppose Bush in 2004. Hillary really needed to bludgeon him here, and it didn’t work.  Moreover, it was a rough night for her, not because of her answers, but because she definitely got the short end of the stick with the moderators (Russert especially). Also, and maybe this was just me, but I thought that her response on the Louis Farrakhan question, where she basically implied that maybe Obama wasn’t being forceful enough in “rejecting” anti-semitism, was really poor form. Worst moment of the night, IMO.
Not that much else to say that I haven’t. It was overall weird, and kind of boring. Not exactly a rip-roaring end to the primary debates.

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Final round debate

Posted by clubsodaandsalt on February 26, 2008

I’m writing this while watching. I missed that whole health care fight at the start, but some thoughts on the rest as I watch:

- As everyone’s already pointed out, Hillary’s complaint about always being first was really really weird. I understand that she’s trying to push this “bias” thing, but that wasn’t very effective. Neither was the SNL reference. If you’re going to complain about media bias, seems somewhat problematic to cite… a network television show. Granted, no-one watches SNL, but still.

- The NAFTA argument was just depressing. I’m sad that the Democratic Party seems to be headed back to protectionist rhetoric. Here’s hoping that it’s mostly just rhetoric.

- If we’re going to keep saying that we have to “re-negotiate” NAFTA, I want to know what aspects we need to re-negotiate. Name them. I want to hear about more than stupid “timeouts”.

- Obama handled himself really well on the foreign policy issue, I think. The criticism of the Pakistan thing is really dumb, in my opinion, and HRC claiming that he “threatened to bomb Pakistan” just struck me as a comical framing. Also, Tim Russert was at new levels of Russertian stupidity in that section, asking a question about re-invading a hypothetical Iraq-Qaeda merger. WTF Russert?

- Hillary landing some good blows on the infamous energy vote and some kind of 30% credit care limit that I’ve never heard about.

- Russert asking Obama about his “pledge” to accept public financing. Of course, no mention of McCain’s rampant abuse of the public financing from Russert. Obama, to his credit, hits that point. GOOD.

- Russert: “You may break your word” OMG HE NEVER PLEDGED ANYTHING. I cannot stand Russert. Can we have Brian Williams ask more questions?

- Now Timmeh is giving some tortured reason that he wants to see the Clinton tax return. God, the lady’s busy! No time to file taxes in February!

- Now we’re talking about Louis Farrakhan? Yeah, OK. That’s important. I mean, they’re both black, right? (God I hate Russert.)

- Shorter Tim Russert: Enough about you guys, I want to talk for a while.

- Tim Russert: I will not stop this nonsense until you take a dump on this picture of Louis Farrakhan I have here to night. WILL YOU PLEDGE TO POOP ON FARRAKHAN IF ELECTED

- Obama is handling himself well in the face of Timmeh’s idiocy on Obama’s apparent Nation of Islam membership.

- Wow. Hillary is being REALLY lame here on this important FarrakhanGate. Apparently, denounce < reject. This is so stupid. Thanks, Russert.

- Curses! Done in by my laptop’s crappy battery life! Anyway, things are winding down. Some summary thoughts later. This liveblogging thing is kind of fun though.

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Obama’s big problem…

Posted by clubsodaandsalt on February 7, 2008

… is that he doesn’t seem to have made any headway in the Hispanic community. I’m not sure that he can. One ominous nugget appears in the form of this map of precincts in NYC from the NYT:

If you are familiar with the city, you can clearly see that the Hispanic neighbourhoods were overwhelming Clinton strongholds. Bear in mind that this seems to cut across subgroups: Dominicans in Washington Heights, Puerto Ricans in the Bronx, Mexicans and South Americans in Corona — they all went for Hillary.

I’ll be interested to see if he can overcome this. I guess we’ll find out in Texas!

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My hopes for Tuesday and beyond

Posted by clubsodaandsalt on February 4, 2008

I won’t be voting in the US until 2012 at the earliest, but I figure I can try to help out those of you who can. So, when you go to the polls tomorrow (or beyond), I hope you’ll consider voting for Barack Obama. Let me tell you why.

As I’ve discussed before, I’ve spent most of this primary season on the fence. Hillary Clinton is a strong candidate with a lot to recommend her, and, frankly, I’d be thrilled to have her be president. Being from the Clinton-Gore wing of the party, she brings a familiarity with policy details that I find both refreshing and encouraging after the last seven years. Moreover, her election would be historic, and we might finally see a media (and perhaps a broader culture) that’s willing to deal with ambitious women with respect, rather than disdain and suspicion. Plus, it would send people like Chris Matthews and Sean Hannity to new levels of derangement, and who doesn’t want to see that?

The decision has also been difficult because the two candidates have such similar views. It’s clear to me, as much as Paul Krugman et al may disagree, that an Obama presidency would pursue pretty much the exact same goals as a Clinton administration, even on that thorny health care issue. And insofar as there are differences, my allegiances are split. I prefer the mandates of Clinton’s health plan, of course (and I admit that Obama’s rhetoric on this issue does betray a worrying lack of understanding), but I also prefer Obama’s foreign policy instincts, which are clearly to Clinton’s left. Obama also has slightly better positions and rhetoric on immigration (my major issue), and civil liberties, and clearly has a better grasp of technology. In the end, though, the differences are tiny, and are likely to be dwarfed by the realities of governance in any case. They are not the basis for my choice.

So, then: why Obama?

As I said, I think that Hillary and Barack will both pursue worthy goals. Unfortunately, we will need the support of a few Republicans to get anything passed. If you think that we are drawing down our presence in Iraq or getting universal health care without a filibuster threat, you’re just not paying attention (or maybe you’ve just been hoping the media will explain things). Now, if you are expecting me to say that I think that Obama can really “bring us together” and “work with Republicans” or whatever, you must not come here often. I believe that the GOP leadership will be more intransigent than ever in 2009. So how do we peel off 4 or 5 votes for cloture? The only way, IMO, is by winning over public opinion. You show people like Specter and Collins that the people are with you, and suddenly, you get some defections. President Bush has been incredibly good at this, even with a 27%(!!) approval rating. So who can better sell the argument for liberalism?

It’s not just that I think that Obama will be better at moving public opinion, though I do. It’s more that he seems to grasp that it is necessary to do so. With Hillary, I get the distinct impression that she believes that we will need to operate within the confines of the current political atmosphere. I do not see her trying to shift public opinion substantially; rather, I believe that she will focus on the legislative process, with its dealing and negotiations. She will be good at this, no doubt, but I don’t believe that it’s going to get the job done.

Obama, on the other hand, truly seems to believe that building a deep and lasting majority for liberalism with the public is central to getting liberal plans enacted. We both believe, I think, that it is only by showing wavering legislators that the votes are on your side that you will get them to defect. Not only will this help him deal with Republican filibusters, but it will more broadly benefit liberalism as a movement in this country, and that’s how you get big plans like universal health care, or a real national transit plan, or whatever it is that you like. There’s a certain amount of risk inherent in this. I have to hope that Obama will actually be able to sell the public on liberalism, after 3 decades of demonization of social democratic ideals. But he seems to have the ability, and at least he’s going to try. With Hillary, we’ll have the White House and Congress, but the discussion in our country will continue to be on their terms, and that means that ultimately, we will not win. I’m not deluded. I don’t think that we will convince everyone overnight. But I do believe that Obama wants to leave the country a liberal legacy to match the destructive legacy of Reagan, in a way that Hillary just doesn’t seem to get. That’s what he means when he talks about the way that Reagan changed America with ideas. It wasn’t a change for the better, but it was far more fundamental than what Bill Clinton, for all his good work, was able to accomplish.

Look, I was always a little biased towards Obama, even if I’ve often found it difficult to come off the fence for him. I still think that his speech at the DNC was the best explanation of why I am a liberal that I’ve heard from someone living. He’s much closer to my generation than the others, and I feel like we approach things in the same way. And it’s no mistake that I feel an attraction to an Ivy-League educated black man who is the son of an immigrant. I mean, come on! As a presidential candidate, he is about as similar to me as is constitutionally permissible. Of course I like the guy. But I think you should like him too, because he doesn’t just want to change our government, he wants to change the way that all of us speak about what our government should do. That’s what America needs, and that’s why, if you are fortunate enough to have the franchise, I hope that you vote for Barack Obama.

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I guess crankiness beats cheerfulness

Posted by clubsodaandsalt on January 9, 2008

We got a race, people! I’m excited to see the first really competitive primary since I moved to the States.

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Two sides to every story

Posted by clubsodaandsalt on January 8, 2008

From the good cheer among Obama campaigners (h/t Steve):

“I’m undecided between Obama and Hillary,” one young woman said. “Aren’t you tired of the old?” [Larry David, who is campaigning for Obama] replied. “Don’t you want to put on some clean clothes? Voting for Hillary would be like doing Frasier again on TV. Don’t you want something fresh, new and creative?”

“I mean, haven’t we had enough with Bushes and Clintons and Bushes?” he continued. “The country needs a shower, a good, long, hot shower. That’s what Obama is, a hot shower. So fresh you can smell him. Delicious.”

This is why I love Larry David. On the other hand, things are decidedly crankier in the Clinton camp:

 ”It is wrong that Senator Obama got to go through 15 debates trumpeting his superior judgment and how he had been against the war in every year, enumerating the years, and never got asked one time–not once, ‘Well, how could you say that when you said in 2004 you didn’t know how you would have voted on the resolution? You said in 2004 there was no difference between you and George Bush on the war. And you took that speech you’re now running on off your Web site in 2004. And there’s no difference in your voting record and Hillary’s ever since.’” Mr. Clinton said at a town-hall style meeting Monday afternoon at Dartmouth College. “Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.”

I love Bill, but I have to say that this reeks of desperation. It’s really quite surprising that these guys seem to be completely unprepared for the post-Iowa fallout. I mean, they had to have known that (1) there was a very good chance that Obama would win in Iowa and (2) that the press, generally hostile to Hillary, would jump at the opportunity to paint her campaign as reeling. Why didn’t they have a better plan for dealing with this? One of my attractions to Hillary as a candidate was that she’d taken her lumps, and that she’d surely be a formidable campaigner as a result. Now… not so sure.

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